Comments on: Yankees show class while Red Sox just want cash

By: John

John — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:43:23 +0000

It’s been said by others who’ve posted, but it needs to be said again - these are two TOTALLY different situations and shouldn’t be compared. I respect what the Yankees did for Virgina Tech - that’s awesome. I also respect what the Sox did - they stuck up for their coaches, who don’t even sniff the pay the players make. That was a situation of MLB trying to save a few bucks, and the Sox made it clear that they wouldn’t stand for it. I think the players for both the Yankees and the Sox did good things.

By: Thomas Magnum

Thomas Magnum — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:34:21 +0000

Frank was obviously way off base with his post, and he definitely did a poor job of standing up for his stance (sorry Frank), but let’s be clear on something. We should all find it refreshing that sites such as this one exist which serve to express both sides of an argument, and are not riddled with bias and agenda. Frank’s article spoke to the biased Yankees fan, sure, but there are plenty of HotStove articles that come at the audience from the other side of the spectrum. Everyone’s voice deserves to be heard, this is a fine example of that ideal, and I think that just that we could respond on this blog speaks to the credibility of this site. And the more you know…

By: DJ

DJ — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:04:40 +0000

This is an absolute joke of a post. It shows the credibility of this website. You did zero research before you posted this absurd story.

If you knew anything about the situation you would know that the Yankees coaching staff was paid for their trip to Japan a few years back because it was pooled in with the whole trip. However, this year it was either an oversight or somebody is just plain cheap and the Red Sox Players stood up for their coaches and demanded they get compensated as well, as anyone who works should. These coaches have families to feed as well and work long hours and although are compensated well for what they do they still earn their money like everyone else. THE PLAYERS GET NOTHING EXTRA FOR TAKING THIS STAND.

Instead of spewing you biased garbarge why don’t you write an intelligent article about how two GOOD things happen. One, the Yankees did a great thing by playing a game with VT and second, the Red Sox players took a stand to support thier coaches.

Before I’m done let me ask you a question. If the roles were reversed and the Yankees were heading to Japan and their coaches were not being paid for the trip and the Yankee players found out about it 2 days before the trip would you expect them to say something or just let their coaches get screwed?

Please think before you write, it might help.

By: gozer

gozer — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:37:31 +0000

It also should be noted that were the game cancelled, the sox were prepared to remain on the field as long as it took to sign autographs for every fan in attendance that day. And ultimately the Sox have decided to go out of pocket to make up the difference between the 20k MLB has agreed to pay the trainers and coaches compared to the 40k each player is receiving, so it’s an absurd notion that this was anything but a group sticking up for their own and making sure mlb didn’t screw the “forgotten” personnel that make every team tick.

via the Daily News:

“Mike Mussina, one of the few remaining players in the Yankees clubhouse who made the same trip to Japan four years ago, said he didn’t blame the Red Sox for their displeasure with the situation.

“I think it’s good,” Mussina said. “We’re all in this together.”

Mussina, who has served as the Yankees’ player representative since 2003, recalls being given a dollar figure the team would receive and splitting it accordingly between players, coaches and support staff such as batting practice pitchers, clubhouse managers and bullpen catchers.”

By: Thomas Magnum

Thomas Magnum — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:55:02 +0000

The Biased Yankee Fan Test
1) Do you know that Clemens took steroids?
2) Did the Yanks handle the Torre situation with class?
3) Have you forgotten how bad the Yanks were in the 80’s?
4) Bleature Creatures - They’re cool? Or they’re nice for the casual fan?

Answer Key for Being a Biased Fan
1) Clemens would never take steroids because he said so.
2) Yes.
3) The Yankees were never bad and they should win the World Series every year.
4) I am one.

By: gozer

gozer — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:43:29 +0000

You hit the nail on the head, dina. The players were actually risking their own bonus checks for the sake of their coaches, so to try and construe any of this as a selfish act is extremely tough to do…even for Frank. The Yanks and Sox both deserve a tip of the cap for their actions yesterday afternoon. Kudos to all.

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:40:36 +0000

They might not have anything to do with one another but that was NOT the point of the post. The point was to show how classy the Yankees are and how the Red Sox tried to upstage the game. Not playing a game you are PAID to play bc you arent getting “x” amount of money is absurd. If Boston boycotted the game yesterday and their trip to Japan it wouldve caused millions of dollars in losses for MLB, MLBPA, tv, sponsership,etc. Play the game as you are PAID to do so and let the business guys take care of the business end of the deal. Play the game that the fans PAID for. If you paid to go a game and the team decided it wasnt going to play bc the coaches werent getting paid enough, you’d be upset too! The Dodgers and Padres got gift baskets for their trip to China earlier in the month, do you see them complaining?? NO!

And again, the POINT of the post is to show you the good side of the game and bad. Since it was the Yanks n Red Sox involved, it was easy to connect the two. So I put them both in one post, why make 2 diff posts, I can I couldve made it simpler haha..

By: dinabanina

dinabanina — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:31:01 +0000

As the comment by the Yankee fan above mentions - one of these things has absolutely nothing to do with the other. It’s like comparing apples to…. sheep. You think the Yankees (or any other pro sports team, for that matter) wouldn’t get pissed off if their coaches weren’t getting money that was promised to them? If anything, the Boston players showed some respect for their coaches by risking their own pay to stand up for them. And I have a feeling that the Red Sox have done one or two touchy-feely community service events, too…every team does so that they don’t look like the money-hungry, self-centered organizations they ALL are.

Nice try, though.

By: Thomas Magnum

Thomas Magnum — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:40:19 +0000

So let me get this straight. In 2008, a team sticking behind their coaches, and not only refusing to play but jeapardizing 40K a man, in an admirable show of unity is: jeapardizing the game’s integrity by trying to put themselves first. Ummm, everyone has a right to their opinion?

And to take it a step further, you were able to contrast the Yanks display of goodwill in going to Virginia Tech with the Red Sox players showing loyalty to the guys who make their jobs easier everyday. Interesting play.

How about I get two new articles? I would like to read one about the Yanks going to Virginia Tech. I would like to read another about the Red Sox boycott. And I additionally request that neither article mentions the other, because the two subjects have nothing to do with one another.

Kind regards,

A Yankees Fan