Comments on: Bad Stuff ‘Bout the Mets http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/2008/06/18/bad-stuff-bout-the-mets/ Hot Stove New York is the one-stop destination for New York sports fans. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:32:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: J Atwood http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/2008/06/18/bad-stuff-bout-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-1733 J Atwood Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:56:13 +0000 http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/?p=4854#comment-1733 Thanks again for Tugger and Nails, appreciate that. Clearly, the worst move here is Kazmir for V Zam. Although even if they hadn't traded Kazmir away, trading a box of balls for V Zam still would have been the worst trade ever. Thanks again for Tugger and Nails, appreciate that.

Clearly, the worst move here is Kazmir for V Zam. Although even if they hadn’t traded Kazmir away, trading a box of balls for V Zam still would have been the worst trade ever.

]]> By: gozer http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/2008/06/18/bad-stuff-bout-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-1732 gozer Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:39:11 +0000 http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/?p=4854#comment-1732 oh - and he was accused of cutting off a cat's head with a knife, not biting it off with his teeth. if ozzy osbourne and kevin mitchell mated however, you'd be in business. oh – and he was accused of cutting off a cat’s head with a knife, not biting it off with his teeth. if ozzy osbourne and kevin mitchell mated however, you’d be in business.

]]> By: gozer http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/2008/06/18/bad-stuff-bout-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-1728 gozer Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:57:51 +0000 http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/?p=4854#comment-1728 Maybe...according to Dwight Gooden in his autobiography. When Mitchell confronted Doc about it, he denied writing it. In terms of his exile from New York, Cashen thought he was eliminating a bad influence on Doc and Straw. In reality, Mitch had the same problems with drugs and alcohol that most of that roster had, but nothing close to level of Doc and Straw. Everyone assumed that Gooden was a small town kid who had been corrupted by Mitchell, who grew up in street gangs in California. In reality, Mitch was a lot smarter about that stuff because he'd grown up around it. If anything, Mitch could have been a positive influence on those guys because he'd seen it before. Gooden spiraled out of control after he left. Maybe…according to Dwight Gooden in his autobiography. When Mitchell confronted Doc about it, he denied writing it. In terms of his exile from New York, Cashen thought he was eliminating a bad influence on Doc and Straw. In reality, Mitch had the same problems with drugs and alcohol that most of that roster had, but nothing close to level of Doc and Straw. Everyone assumed that Gooden was a small town kid who had been corrupted by Mitchell, who grew up in street gangs in California. In reality, Mitch was a lot smarter about that stuff because he’d grown up around it. If anything, Mitch could have been a positive influence on those guys because he’d seen it before. Gooden spiraled out of control after he left.

]]> By: Thomas Magnum http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/2008/06/18/bad-stuff-bout-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-1727 Thomas Magnum Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:47:24 +0000 http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/?p=4854#comment-1727 Good egg? Didn't Mitchell bite the head off a cat? Good egg? Didn’t Mitchell bite the head off a cat?

]]> By: yy http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/2008/06/18/bad-stuff-bout-the-mets/comment-page-1/#comment-1726 yy Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:13:31 +0000 http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/?p=4854#comment-1726 Hiring 200-year-old Casey Stengel as their first manager probably wasn't such a great idea, either. Hiring 200-year-old Casey Stengel as their first manager probably wasn’t such a great idea, either.

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