Comments on: With Willie Gone, How Long Until Minaya Joins Him?

By: phil

phil — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:07:54 +0000

i understand that, im a bit anti delgado and minaya so i just group them together, i want minaya out if they dont make it this year

By: gozer

gozer — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:30:15 +0000

I hear you. I strongly disagree. Just because I don’t like Delgado now doesn’t mean I can discount what 2006 and Delgado’s contributions meant to this franchise. Mike Jacobs is hitting .242 and just .219 in June. We’re gonna shed tears for Mike Jacobs now? Give me a break. If I had a time machine I’d go back and make that trade again, and again, and again, and again. I have a lot of bones to pick with Minaya, but that trade is not one of them.

By: phil

phil — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:27:11 +0000

im saying as of now the trade is poor, another example of minaya trying to win immediately, we are tralking about the here and now, in 06 the trade was fine, in 08 its not

By: gozer

gozer — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:12:07 +0000

I said this the previous week in response to one of Jay’s posts, but I’ll say it again here: Upon arriving from Florida in 2006 Carlos hit 38 homers and drove in 114. In 2007, his disappointing 24 homers and 87 RBI still dwarfed the stats of the player he was traded for (Mike Jacobs, 17 homers, 54 RBI). Finally, in year three, Jacobs is out-producing Delgado. Does that surprise anyone? Again, I hate Carlos Delgado, and I’ll be happy when he’s out of town, but you can’t even second-guess that trade in hindsight. Without 2006, there’s no ‘07 collapse. There’s no place from which to fall. There are no raised expectations. I’d rather have high expectations and fall short than be complacent with mediocrity.

By: phil

phil — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:01:15 +0000

alright good point but still poor trade

By: Pete

Pete — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:34:15 +0000

Quick note of clarification:
The Mets dealt Mike Jacobs (along with Yusmeiro Petit) before the ‘06 season, not after. And it was for Delgado, which at the time (and for at least one season) looked like a steal for the Mets. Minaya didn’t give Delgado that contract, the Marlins did.