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	<title>Comments on: Who&#8217;s To Blame? Who Stays? Who Goes? Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Abruzzese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Abruzzese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There we go, now we&#039;re closer to the same page. If the Yankees don&#039;t sign CC or any free agents then maybe they can go with both Pettitte and Mussina. 

I think the biggest decisions are, choosing between Pettitte and Mussina. 

And, picking 2 of 3 out of Aceves, Hughes, and Kennedy. Aceves has the edge because he is older and more mature. Then it comes down to Hughes and Kennedy. I think Hughes will be chosen over Kennedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There we go, now we&#8217;re closer to the same page. If the Yankees don&#8217;t sign CC or any free agents then maybe they can go with both Pettitte and Mussina. </p>
<p>I think the biggest decisions are, choosing between Pettitte and Mussina. </p>
<p>And, picking 2 of 3 out of Aceves, Hughes, and Kennedy. Aceves has the edge because he is older and more mature. Then it comes down to Hughes and Kennedy. I think Hughes will be chosen over Kennedy.</p>
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		<title>By: gozer</title>
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		<dc:creator>gozer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, but you can&#039;t leave spots open for both Kennedy and Aceves.  The only guys I can see them really &quot;pencilling&quot; in would be Wang, Joba, and Hughes.  I can&#039;t see the Yanks going young again to round out those final two spots.  Why not bring Pettitte and Mussina back and leave it for Kennedy or Aceves to take someone&#039;s job?  Of course, the addition of CC Sabathia would throw a wrench into the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, but you can&#8217;t leave spots open for both Kennedy and Aceves.  The only guys I can see them really &#8220;pencilling&#8221; in would be Wang, Joba, and Hughes.  I can&#8217;t see the Yanks going young again to round out those final two spots.  Why not bring Pettitte and Mussina back and leave it for Kennedy or Aceves to take someone&#8217;s job?  Of course, the addition of CC Sabathia would throw a wrench into the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Abruzzese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Abruzzese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outside of the fans, nobody in the Yankee organization has given up on Kennedy. Also his comments after that terrible start were blown up by the media. I had the opportunity to talk to him after his very next start and he was a completely different person than he was portrayed as. I can&#039;t see the Yankees actively trying to trade him. He might get traded, but everyone runs that risk. You can&#039;t give up on a guy who was rushed through the minors so quickly.

As for Aceves, he isn&#039;t a typical minor league prospect. He has already been pitching professionally for years. I think he has a very realistic shot at making that rotation next year. At this point it&#039;s his to loose. This isn&#039;t just some fringe prospect who is having a good year. I&#039;m not saying he&#039;s going to be great, but he has a legit shot at sticking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outside of the fans, nobody in the Yankee organization has given up on Kennedy. Also his comments after that terrible start were blown up by the media. I had the opportunity to talk to him after his very next start and he was a completely different person than he was portrayed as. I can&#8217;t see the Yankees actively trying to trade him. He might get traded, but everyone runs that risk. You can&#8217;t give up on a guy who was rushed through the minors so quickly.</p>
<p>As for Aceves, he isn&#8217;t a typical minor league prospect. He has already been pitching professionally for years. I think he has a very realistic shot at making that rotation next year. At this point it&#8217;s his to loose. This isn&#8217;t just some fringe prospect who is having a good year. I&#8217;m not saying he&#8217;s going to be great, but he has a legit shot at sticking.</p>
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		<title>By: gozer</title>
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		<dc:creator>gozer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the time to deal Matsui was last offseason.  His value has already plummeted.  For a while, it sounded as if the Giants would&#039;ve dealt Jonathan Sanchez for Matsui and cash.  The Yankees, and their fans, wanted more for Godzilla.  Think San Fran would do that trade today?  No way.

As for Frank&#039;s other suggestions, he may be upset, but I don&#039;t think he&#039;s been unthoughtful at all.  You look around Yankee Universe and there are a ton of people ready to cut bait with Ian Kennedy.  There were whispers that his comments following his most recent big league disaster punched his ticket out of town.  It&#039;s clear that Rob would keep Kennedy and Cabrera, but that doesn&#039;t mean that he&#039;s right.  In fact, in this instance, I think he&#039;s dead wrong.

The Yankees will address center field in the offseason, and they&#039;ve already told you that they don&#039;t value Melky as a fourth outfielder down the stretch.  He&#039;ll be traded or forgotten.

Kennedy is a punk and doesn&#039;t have a sliver of the upside that Joba and Hughes have.  After this 2008 disaster, Hell will freeze over before that terrific trio is penciled into the rotation again.  There&#039;s every chance in the world that Kennedy has zero trade value right now and that the Yanks will be unable to move him, but I think they&#039;ll try.  And since when is Aceves in the mix?  Even in pencil, that&#039;s a huge stretch.  I could see a Spring Training where guys like Aceves and Kennedy are battling for the 5th spot in the rotation alongside a low-cost veteran (Paul Byrd or someone of that ilk - I only bring up his name because he&#039;s pitching right now, but you can insert the name of any cheap veteran here).  The Yankees have learned their lesson however.  You&#039;ll see a far more veteran rotation next season than you did in &#039;08.

And when the Yanks start Joba in the bullpen again and his arm falls off next summer, who knows what they&#039;ll do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the time to deal Matsui was last offseason.  His value has already plummeted.  For a while, it sounded as if the Giants would&#8217;ve dealt Jonathan Sanchez for Matsui and cash.  The Yankees, and their fans, wanted more for Godzilla.  Think San Fran would do that trade today?  No way.</p>
<p>As for Frank&#8217;s other suggestions, he may be upset, but I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s been unthoughtful at all.  You look around Yankee Universe and there are a ton of people ready to cut bait with Ian Kennedy.  There were whispers that his comments following his most recent big league disaster punched his ticket out of town.  It&#8217;s clear that Rob would keep Kennedy and Cabrera, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that he&#8217;s right.  In fact, in this instance, I think he&#8217;s dead wrong.</p>
<p>The Yankees will address center field in the offseason, and they&#8217;ve already told you that they don&#8217;t value Melky as a fourth outfielder down the stretch.  He&#8217;ll be traded or forgotten.</p>
<p>Kennedy is a punk and doesn&#8217;t have a sliver of the upside that Joba and Hughes have.  After this 2008 disaster, Hell will freeze over before that terrific trio is penciled into the rotation again.  There&#8217;s every chance in the world that Kennedy has zero trade value right now and that the Yanks will be unable to move him, but I think they&#8217;ll try.  And since when is Aceves in the mix?  Even in pencil, that&#8217;s a huge stretch.  I could see a Spring Training where guys like Aceves and Kennedy are battling for the 5th spot in the rotation alongside a low-cost veteran (Paul Byrd or someone of that ilk &#8211; I only bring up his name because he&#8217;s pitching right now, but you can insert the name of any cheap veteran here).  The Yankees have learned their lesson however.  You&#8217;ll see a far more veteran rotation next season than you did in &#8216;08.</p>
<p>And when the Yanks start Joba in the bullpen again and his arm falls off next summer, who knows what they&#8217;ll do.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Negron Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Negron Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea it&#039;s more of a rant than an actual article. I usually have a rant or 2 in me going on my personal feelings lol. I do happen to disagree with Kennedy, I dont think he has the stuff to pitch in NY, Im not impressed with his stuff. As for Hughes, I think he&#039;s going to be great, just give him time. Matsui would be hard to trade but I dont think its impossible. Melky, I love the guy but I dont think he&#039;s going to mount to anything significant. (yes, I finally gave in on the Melky fandom)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea it&#8217;s more of a rant than an actual article. I usually have a rant or 2 in me going on my personal feelings lol. I do happen to disagree with Kennedy, I dont think he has the stuff to pitch in NY, Im not impressed with his stuff. As for Hughes, I think he&#8217;s going to be great, just give him time. Matsui would be hard to trade but I dont think its impossible. Melky, I love the guy but I dont think he&#8217;s going to mount to anything significant. (yes, I finally gave in on the Melky fandom)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Abruzzese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Abruzzese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s crazy to say that a pitcher with such an upside like Ian Kennedy you can just say he&#039;s gone because he can&#039;t pitch in New York.

Kennedy didn&#039;t even get a full season in the minors before being called up last season. They should have used him in triple-A all season long and he should have never even sniffed the majors, but they rushed him and he wasn&#039;t ready. That doesn&#039;t mean that he&#039;ll never be ready.

There is also no rush to trade Melky Cabrera. Why not keep him around? He&#039;d be one of the best 4th outfielders in baseball.

Also it&#039;s not that easy to just get rid of Matsui. He has a full no trade clause and likes playing in New York. I think he might approve a trade, but it&#039;s far from a forgone conclusion as he would probably perceive it as a failure if he was traded away so I can see him vetoing any trade.

As for bringing Moose and Pettitte back, I don&#039;t think you can fit both of them on next year&#039;s roster. You gotta figure that you have Wang, Joba, and Aceves penciled in. That leaves room for Hughes/Kennedy or Pettitte/Mussina. That&#039;s IF the Yankees don&#039;t sign a free agent starter.

Sorry bro, I usually love your articles, but this one seems like you are upset with the season and are not thinking this stuff through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s crazy to say that a pitcher with such an upside like Ian Kennedy you can just say he&#8217;s gone because he can&#8217;t pitch in New York.</p>
<p>Kennedy didn&#8217;t even get a full season in the minors before being called up last season. They should have used him in triple-A all season long and he should have never even sniffed the majors, but they rushed him and he wasn&#8217;t ready. That doesn&#8217;t mean that he&#8217;ll never be ready.</p>
<p>There is also no rush to trade Melky Cabrera. Why not keep him around? He&#8217;d be one of the best 4th outfielders in baseball.</p>
<p>Also it&#8217;s not that easy to just get rid of Matsui. He has a full no trade clause and likes playing in New York. I think he might approve a trade, but it&#8217;s far from a forgone conclusion as he would probably perceive it as a failure if he was traded away so I can see him vetoing any trade.</p>
<p>As for bringing Moose and Pettitte back, I don&#8217;t think you can fit both of them on next year&#8217;s roster. You gotta figure that you have Wang, Joba, and Aceves penciled in. That leaves room for Hughes/Kennedy or Pettitte/Mussina. That&#8217;s IF the Yankees don&#8217;t sign a free agent starter.</p>
<p>Sorry bro, I usually love your articles, but this one seems like you are upset with the season and are not thinking this stuff through.</p>
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